Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Benito Mussolini did NOT say: "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power." That is a fake quote re: 22 Sectoral Corporations myth

Benito Mussolini did NOT say: "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power." That is a fake quote (See the work of the veteran historian Dr. Rex Curry). 

There is no reference to this quote in a reliable source.

Some people point to Giovanni Gentile (in "La Dottrina del Fascismo") as the person who made the statement. But if you go to the article at http://www.piralli.it/dottrina.htm
http://litgloss.buffalo.edu/mussolini/text2.shtml
and a full translation in http://cosmo.slique.net/~vikrum/mirrored/texts/mussolini/fascism/ 
you find the article "La Dottrina del Fascismo" written by Giovanni Gentile, and published under Mussolini's name in the Encyclopedia Italiana, and the only reference to corporatism is in section VIII, and NOT in the words of the quote.

There is no original source in Italian that refers to the quotation.

Instead there is one source in Italian, that translates an American source
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:ZTsuo2t9sYkJ:https://www.inventati.org/mailman/public/forumbergamo/2003-April/000985.html+%22chiamato+corporativismo%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Mussolini never said the statement in the quotation, and anyone who has any understanding of what he DID say would know that he would not say that because it does not describe what he WAS saying otherwise. It does not even make sense that there would be a SINGLE quote like that from Mussolini if what it purports to state was what he thought. Thus more proof it is a fake quote.

The socialist Mussolini & his 22 sectoral corporations & his Ministry of Corporations, the Address to the National Corporative Council - 

Discover how hard it is to find anywhere on the web a list of Mussolini’s 22 corporations. 


The socialist Mussolini touted the Ministry of Corporations that organized the Italian economy into 22 sectoral corporations. "Address to the National Corporative Council (14 November 1933) and Senate Speech on the Bill Establishing the Corporations (abridged; 13 January 1934)". 


They were not “corporations” as discussed by socialists in the USA. Socialists deliberately lie about what the socialist Mussolini was saying. 


Mussolini didn't mean the power of big companies, rather the power of a large number of individuals working collectively. That's what he meant by “corporativismo.” 


See the work of Dr. Rex Curry. http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html


FASCIST MEANT "Band of National Combat" under the socialist Mussolini: the well-known and long-time socialist Benito Mussolini began to mimic American socialists in their use of the stiff-arm salute, robotic chanting to flags, the use of the fasces as a symbol of government, and the glorification of ancient Rome (or myths about Rome). In 1921, Mussolini (who acquired his title "il duce" -leader- when he was known only as a socialist, long before his new f-word for socialist factions) created a new sub-group called "Fasci di combattimento" (also known as the "Fascio nazionale di combattimento." 

The term "fascio" was the Italian word for workers' groups, peasant organizations, labor unions and the other socialist groups where Mussolini had developed a large following. It meant "band," or people banding together, and referred to his socialist band of combat. It is similar to the word "faction" in that Mussolini's group was another of many socialist-inspired factions. Socialism is always faction against faction.
http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html

On December 11, 1914, Mussolini started a political group, Fasci d'azione rivoluzionaria, (band of revolutionary action) which was a fusion of two other movements: the above group, Fasci d'azione rivoluzionaria
internazionalista and a previous group he started called the Fasci autonomi d'azione rivoluzionaria.

He eventually decided to declare support for the war by appealing to the need for socialists to overthrow the Hohenzollern and Habsburg monarchies in Germany and Austria-Hungary whom he claimed had consistently repressed socialism. He further justified his position by denouncing the Central Powers for being reactionary powers; for pursuing imperialist designs against Belgium and Serbia as well as historically against Denmark, France, and against Italians, since hundreds of thousands of Italians were under Habsburg rule. He claimed that the fall of Hohenzollern and Habsburg monarchies and the repression of "reactionary" Turkey would create conditions beneficial for the working class. While he was supportive of the Entente powers, Mussolini responded to the conservative nature of Tsarist Russia by claiming that the mobilization required for the war would undermine Russia's reactionary authoritarianism and the war would bring Russia to social revolution. He claimed that for Italy the war would complete the process of Risorgimento by uniting the Italians in Austria-Hungary into Italy and by allowing the common people of Italy to be participating members of the Italian nation in what would be Italy's first national war.

The socialist Mussolini & his 22 sectoral corporations & his Ministry of Corporations, the Address to the National Corporative Council -

Discover how hard it is to find anywhere on the web a list of Mussolini's 22 "corporations."

The socialist Mussolini touted the Ministry of Corporations that organized the Italian economy into 22 sectoral corporations. "Address to the National Corporative Council (14 November 1933) and Senate Speech on the Bill Establishing the Corporations (abridged; 13 January 1934)."

They were not "corporations" as discussed by socialists in the USA. Socialists deliberately lie about what the socialist Mussolini was saying.

Mussolini didn't mean the power of big companies, rather the power of a large number of individuals working collectively. That's what he meant by "corporativismo."

See the work of Dr. Rex Curry. http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html
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Subject: Fajita is related to Fascia & Fascist: Fajita is related to the words "Fascia" and for the same reason "Fascist" or "Fascism" and for the same reason "plantar fasciitis" in the sense of "band" (probably referring to the "strips" of meat).




22 Sectoral Corporations under socialist Mussolini


22 sectoral corporations under the socialist Mussolini are now available thanks to the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry.
Rex Curry archives are linked at this blog
Is this the only place on the internet that exposes the so-called "22 corporations"?

On July 2, 1926, the Ministry of Corporations was established and soon thereafter the National Council of Corporations. The wacky Italian socialists also created the Istituto per la Ricostruzione Industriale (IRI), in yet another ominous parallel to the USA's socialist Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR). It was not until February
5, 1934 that the 22 "corporations" were defined:

1. Grains
2. Vegetable, Flower and Fruit Cultivation
3. Wine and Oil Cultivation
4. Livestock and Fish
5. Wood
6. Textiles
7. Clothing
8. Metalworking
9. Machinery
10. Chemicals
11. Liquid Combustibles and Fossil Fuels
12. Paper and Publishing
13. Building Construction
14. Water, Gas and Electricity
15. Mining Industries
16. Glass and Ceramics
17. Internal Communications
18. Sea and Air
19. Entertainment
20. Hostelries
21. Professions and Arts
22. Social Care and Credit

10 comments:

  1. http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Benito_Mussolini.aspx

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  2. http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Benito_Mussolini.aspx

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  3. You write that a specific Mussolini quote is fake. However, a similar quote ("corporatism is the corner stone of the Fascist nation, or better still, the Fascist nation is corporative or it is not fascist" original: "il corporativismo è la pietra angolare dello Stato fascista, anzi lo Stato fascista o è corporativo o non è fascista") appears to be real per https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporativismo The note claims the quote is from a 1930 speech by Mussolini.

    I do not know Italian, so I cannot parse whether Mussolini's use of the term means corporatism in the sense of "merger of state and corporate power" but the translation of the Italian Wiki page appears to go in that direction.

    It certainly seems clear that control by corporations of the machinery of the state to its advantage is one of the basic elements of fascism. It was the case in Italy and for sure in Germany (even U.S. corporations cooperated with the Nazis).

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    1. This is the type of corporatism he was talking about. Not Commercial Business entities

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism?wprov=sfla1

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  4. Breitbart is a fascist propaganda distribution service. Did you credit them for using their work?

    Socialists and communists were the first victims of Nazism.

    And you - by using historic revision confuse the murders with the murdered compound their sin, and take on some for your very own.

    You pass this injustice along in a manner that puts you on Goebbels lap.

    Sir, avoid history. It's not your subject.


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    1. You are either ignorant brainwashed or obtuse

      Hitler on Marxism

      “National Socialism derives from each of the two camps the pure idea that characterizes it, national resolution from bourgeois tradition; vital, creative socialism from the teaching of Marxism.” – January 27, 1934, interview with Hanns Johst in Frankforter Volksblatt

      He told Hermann Rauschning: ‘I have learned a great deal from Marxism, as I do not hesitate to admit.’ He added: “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it.’

      Hitler never shut up about promoting socialism and bashing capitalism.

      His problem wasn't with socialism his problem was with bolshevism genius.

      If you actually did some reading and not just from an American textbook, you would actually know and understand WHY Hitler hated communism or as he actually called it bolshevism. Hitler believed that Russian communism was yet another a Jewish-capitalist conspiracy. He spoke of the ‘intention of Jewish big capital to destroy Russia completely in order to maximize profits’. In Hitler’s view, bolshevism, just like capitalism, was a system in which an exploitative Jewish ‘clique’ conquered a nation’s people by pitting them against each other – class against class. ‘Bolshevism is really just the general form of capitalism’, he opined.

      In a passage in Mein Kampf Hitler elaborated on this bizarre theme, suggesting that Bolshevism is a precondition of capitalist exploitation. He warned that Germany was under threat from ‘Bolshevik storm troops in the service of Jewish international finance’. He warned of Bolshevist fighting forces, commanded by international and Jewish stock exchange capital’. He explained:

      "Jewish finance demands not only the absolute economic destruction of Germany but its complete political enslavement. The internationalisation of our German economic system, that is to say, the transference of our productive forces to the control of Jewish international finance, can be completely carried out only in a state that has been politically Bolshevised."   

      Hitler was so anti-capitalist he thought even the Communists of Soviet Russia were capitalists.

      Think about the insanity of that. In reality Hitler was so far left he is almost going right off the end suggesting the bolshevist Russians even were capitalists.

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  5. FASCISM is the KJB merger of
    “GHOST GOD CORPORATE POWER” & “Conquered*SUBSERVIENT*Governments”…

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  6. NAZI > "National*Anglo*Zionist*Illumenati" Knights Templar S0LDieRisM...
    FASCISM > KJB merger of “GHOST GOD CORPORATE POWER” & “Conquered*SUBSERVIENT*Governments”…

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    1. By corporate power he meant Guilds, not a corporate commercial entity like in the US where a company is incorporated.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism?wprov=sfla1

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  7. I'll grant you your opinion on attribution and will further investigate the source of the quote.
    Interestingly, I am not on my usual computer and when I did a search for this quote, a website that usually comes up with a discussion of if the attribution is accurate didn't pop up near the top. I'll try the search on my regular PC.

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